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Homepage of Brisbane Medieval Fayre 2006 
19th-Jul-2006 08:43 am
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http://www.unitedswords.com.au/BMF/BMF%20page1%20INDEX%20BMF.htm

Kudos to livejournalist missedangel for finding this needle in a haystack.
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18th-Jul-2006 11:04 pm (UTC)
To one and all who may be planning to go: be aware that the event is dry this year - entirely new management of the event, and no connection with the organisation of previous years, and other issues on which I will not comment in a public forum - which means: no tavern, no alcohol bought on site, no alcohol bought into the site, and no alchohol to be consumed on the site. West End police have advised the organisers, and important representatives of the living history community, that there will be zero tolerance on this matter, and responses to finding alcohol on site will range from ejecting the person up to and including summarily closing the event down.

Some other things worth mentioning in relation to that website. Despite the front page, there will be no horses or jousting there; saturday close-down is 4:30pm, not 6:00 pm; the name of the event is "Medieval Fayre", not "Brisbane Medieval Fayre", as the latter is still owned by the Qld Folk Federation; the web site still states there is a tavern, but this is most definitely not so; and the website suggests that the event still involves QFF - most, most definitely not so.

Please note that I am not "having a go" at the organisers of the event, and wish them all success, but it is important for the public to know that this is not the same event that has been run in previous years. Having said that, go along, have a ball, and cuddle the re-enactors because they need all the love they can get.
18th-Jul-2006 11:15 pm (UTC)
*sigh*

Thank you very much for all that.

My group is booked for the bloody thing, and getting information is still like pulling teeth.

Still, organisational teething problems aside, I think we can all still go and have a great time, and just advertise on livejournal what good pubs and parties to go onto after site closure.
19th-Jul-2006 12:08 am (UTC)
What group? I am guessing dancers?
19th-Jul-2006 12:23 am (UTC)
Heh, no Tribalblossoms is too young a group to perform at the Fayre yet. Next year I hope, if there's room for more bellydancers. This year its street theatre.

Keep an eye out for Saahirah Raven if you like hot gothic bellydancers, though (and who doesn't?); she's booked for this year.

If you can find it in your persona, be kind to the one-eyed leper. Or by some eggs from the abandoned wife who's husband is in the stocks to help support their fourteen children. And pelt the bastard with them.
18th-Jul-2006 11:22 pm (UTC)
It's interesting that the new organisers brokered a deal with the QFF and yet can't use "Brisbane Medieval Fayre"... and someone should tell their webmonkey...

The news about the Lack of Tavern is a low blow... where is it mentioned on the website, btw? I didn't see it on my quick peruse.
19th-Jul-2006 12:12 am (UTC)
The website still talks about the tavern on one of the interior pages, the "what's on" i think, but it's possible they haven't had time to update it yet. Word about the licence (or rather the dry site) only filtered out in the last few days.
19th-Jul-2006 02:29 pm (UTC)
"Despite the front page, there will be no horses or jousting there; saturday close-down is 4:30pm, not 6:00 pm;"

As of monday evening there was jousting.

Where are you getting your info from?
20th-Jul-2006 01:33 am (UTC)
QLHF - the last I'd heard from the jousters about town, which was about 10 days out, they weren't attending. There may have been changes - when you say "as of monday evening", do you mean the organisers said that at the meeting? If so, I'll do some more digging to see what the story is.
20th-Jul-2006 05:31 am (UTC)
Please do. I want to know whether it is correct to call it UMFAT - Unidentified Medieval Fayre and Tourney, or just UMF.
19th-Jul-2006 01:17 am (UTC)
as a dancer who has performed in the tavern in previous years I'd like to see what good could come of it being a dry site...

just MHO though. :)
19th-Jul-2006 01:32 am (UTC)
Why is it that you, and other people, feel there always must be alcohol at every venue for people to have a good time?
19th-Jul-2006 01:42 am (UTC)
sorry, i think you misunderstood me. i agree with you on this one - the tavern could be a rather unsociable place at times.

when i say i'd like to see what good could come i mean that i think there WOULD be good from it being a dry site, but at the same time i also accept that some people may not agree with me (because yes a dry site might affect crowd numbers etc...)
19th-Jul-2006 01:45 am (UTC)
I don't think it's so much the alcohol - and you will find that many of the re-enactors who are fighting etc have self-imposed abstinence for the weekend anyway.

The tavern is a central meeting point, a place to meet friends old and new.. it's host to many of the community-building events of the event, like the bardic competition etc..

There's music and good company and a place to sit down which is usually much desired!

I think the grog is really a very small part of what's good about having a tavern. It's not the alcohol that makes it the heart of the event, it's a lot more than that.

So, for many and varied reasons, no tavern=BAD.
19th-Jul-2006 02:05 am (UTC)
Yes, Omega, I understand your point. It's like the Hungry Jacks end of Queen Street Mall; but with proper chairs and entertainment.

Why not still have the 'tavern' [focal meeting point] - with all the music, entertainment, seats, food, etc. - and just have non-alcoholic drinks. Yes, there will be people who can't seem to go one hour without a stiff drink who will complain; tough luck to them.

19th-Jul-2006 01:26 am (UTC)
There are a lot of "behind the scenes" stuff going on with this event, very little of it good.

Many re-enactment groups, stallholders etc etc are refusing to attend the event in its current form.

I'll limit myself to saying if you go expecting it to be anything like it's been in the past you will be very dissapointed.
19th-Jul-2006 04:48 am (UTC)
Agreed. Even my group is changing somewhat.
19th-Jul-2006 02:05 am (UTC) - conspiracy theory alert
..or is it the new anti-smoking laws that might have caused the tavern to be shut? did they also sell food?
19th-Jul-2006 02:12 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
My heart bleeds [NOT] for the poor, hard done by smokers whose coughing areas have decreased. :P
19th-Jul-2006 04:47 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
As a non-smoker I view it as discrimination to smokers... non-smokers are permitted everywhere, but smokers are to be penned like animals.


Doesn't seem right to me.
19th-Jul-2006 05:40 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
Smokers are allowed everywhere non-smokers are. They're just not allowed to force non-smokers to inhale cig smoke.
19th-Jul-2006 05:59 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
ROFL

After a long day of clearing bookcases of unwanted books, your comment gave me great comical relief. Thank you, Magdalena. :)

Smokers are also permitted everywhere; just their cigarettes are not welcomed.
19th-Jul-2006 06:18 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
People choose to smoke. Smoking has a dramatic and negative effect, not only on their health, but more so on others. Why shouldn't the others, who have made the choice not to smoke, protect themselves from it?
There's plenty of help available, for free, to quit the addiction. There really is no excuse.
19th-Jul-2006 06:55 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
So someone should be forced to quit? That, too, is unfair.
19th-Jul-2006 06:57 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
You're not being forced to quit. You are being asked not to pollute healthy people's drinking and eating areas.
19th-Jul-2006 07:06 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
hmm. Not a smoker, not taking any position... but glancing around a lot of areas where people in brisvegas sit to eat and drink, I think it's probably a little generous to assume that the non-smokers are healthy.
19th-Jul-2006 07:08 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
True, true. 'Otherwise healthy' is perhaps more accurate, their health conditions aren't due to smoking (other than passive) or nictotene.
19th-Jul-2006 08:40 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
Then have two separate rooms. Simple. Not hard. Separated by a door. Makes perfect sense to me. That way smokers go in one and non smokers aren't allowed in (unless they promise not to complain) and the other non smokers go in. I remember when it used to be like that. Now smokers are forced to stand on the footpath to smoke, therefore being unable to enjoy a drink and a smoke at the same time - yet plenty of people who don't smoke can indulge in a drink and some other drug at the same time.
19th-Jul-2006 10:02 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
What about the poor bastards serving the food and drink? The thing about other drugs, much as I disagree with them, is that others are not forced to partake of them by way of the user.
What benefits are gained from drinking, smoking (tobacco, pot, crack, etc), injecting, imbibing or snorting anything? Why would you take any of these up in the first place? That's the thing, too. You choose to take these up. You aren't born with a cigarette in one hand and a gin in the other. You get a vitamin K injection, not special K. No matter how freely available it is, it's still a drug and you're polluting your conciousness and body with it.
19th-Jul-2006 10:41 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
Quite simple - they have to agree to work in that section. Just like one has to agree to work in a gaming lounge or whatnot. I don't disagree with there being smokefree places, I just think it's unfair to make everywhere that. Smoking is not illegal. If there is a place that smokers go and you don't want to be around smokers, it's really quite simple - don't go there.

The exact same reason why I don't go to places where I know that there will be people partaking of party drugs - because I don't want to be subjected to their behaviour.
That's probably because I've been on the receiving end of drug-related violence
19th-Jul-2006 10:58 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
Hmm. They (the employees) would be effectively pressured into agreeing to work in a smoking section lest they lose their jobs.
Everywhere is not a smokefree place. Smokers are free to persue their habit in the privacy of their own homes. Look at it this way: pubs are owned by people, who don't have to have smokers there if they don't feel like it. You're not being forced to smoke on the street, you could just not smoke. Honestly, given the influence smoking has on the senses of taste and smell (not to mention body odour) how can you really enjoy a drink or food with a cigarette?
If there's a place that non-smokers go and you don't want to be around non-smokers, it's really quite simple--don't go there.
I mean, I keep out of places like pubs and clubs and places where I'm likely to be surrounded by drunks and druggies and smokers.
I'll reiterate: you choose to smoke. It's not something you are burdened with, it's a choice. Whatever happens to you after you make that choice is your own doing. Self inflicted, with no mercy.
19th-Jul-2006 12:12 pm (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
Unfair dismissal laws prevent it.

Smoking is now banned in all pubs, clubs and restaurants. Once there used to be smoking and smokefree places. It'd be nice if the law allowed licences to places to be smoking places. Hence my argument. Banning something that is, in fact, legal, reeks of discrimination.

It's like saying that someone of one colour skin can go somewhere, but someone of a different colour skin can go elsewhere. Yes, people choose to smoke, but as long as it is still legal to do so, they should not be discriminated against.

Let's agree to disagree, and I'll see you next weekend if not before ;) *hugs*
19th-Jul-2006 12:14 pm (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
People don't choose their skin colour, though.
Yup, see you next weekend [hugs].
19th-Jul-2006 12:17 pm (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
I know... a better one then: as far as I know, no gay bar won't allow straights, and no "straight" bar will not allow gays. (This is as far as I know :p)
19th-Jul-2006 12:18 pm (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
I wouldn't know, I don't go to either [grins].
19th-Jul-2006 12:21 pm (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
I know. Other people I know, however, go to both (and are sluts either way you look at it *shakes head* love 'em though)
19th-Jul-2006 12:23 pm (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
Indeed.
21st-Jul-2006 11:09 pm (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
Cry me a river. Build me a bridge and get over it.

(Written with the help of narwhale and xie_ftfesad)
19th-Jul-2006 03:05 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
No consipiracy. The organisation that initially was going to take care of the licence reviewed it's interest and willingness to be involved with the event, and decided it would prefer not to be involved. No alternatives for the licence were arranged, and West End police have indicated they will crack down very hard on any alchohol not covered by a licence.
19th-Jul-2006 10:18 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
I wonder if this has anything to do with alcahol being consumed there at other times? They may just have a general commnity zero tollerance policy.
19th-Jul-2006 10:24 am (UTC) - Re: conspiracy theory alert
well, that's exactly the point. At any other time they are expected by the community and the usual users of the park to have zero tolerance for drinking in public in unlicencsed areas, and they can hardly make exceptions. not morally.
20th-Jul-2006 01:11 pm (UTC) - Re: conspiracy against smokers
kinda off topic, but I am speaking (okay, typing if you want to be pedants) as a recently escaped ex-smoker....

I chose to go from a pack a day to nothing after the first time i went out post july 1. I dont want to get into whether the laws are discriminatory, but they gave me much motivation to quit, knowing that when i go out, i wont have to have smoke and smokers constantly in my face.
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