Possum O'Doom ([info]greenglowgrrl) wrote in [info]brisneyland,

Who ARE these people? Greenglowgrrl's Guide to Independent Candidates for the Qld Senate

You can see what our senate ballot sheet will look like here.
http://belowtheline.cc/senate/2010/qld#preferences=
Sixty names, fourteen of which aren't part of one of the twenty-three parties. And one just happens to have the same name as a Brisbane candidate for the House of Representatives.

Group C Independent: Paul and Mary Spencer.

They preference all the other grouped independents, then donkey in the ungrouped independents. They put last the Sex Party, then Shooters and Fishers, then CEC.
https://www.belowtheline.org.au/qld/group_c.html
Interested in tax reform and aged care.
http://www.mysunshinecoast.com.au/business/display/paul-and-mary-spencer-queensland-senate-candidates-for-2010-federal-election,38265,2837
Now I'm stuck with the image of Abe Simpson. The word "spencer" made me think of old people to begin with, which at least is an easy mnemonic for their platform.
http://bothkindsofpolitics.org/?p=1566
UN3 1 SPENCER, Paul - Wardsman
65 Broadsea Ave
MAROOCHYDORE QLD 4558
Phone (home): 07 5443 3892
Email: paulnmary1@optusnet.com.au
UN3 2 SPENCER, Mary - Kitchen Hand


Group F Independent: John Pyke and Christopher Tooley

Preference ungrouped independents Mark Smith and Peter Pyke (relative?) and would be equally happy with Greens or Democrats. Can't stand One Nation, CEC, Australia First in that order.
https://www.belowtheline.org.au/qld/group_f.html
Their platform is to limit the pokies by implementing the recommendations of the Productivity Commission Inquiry into Gambling.
http://ozconstinfo.freehomepage.com/pokies/
Other articles on this site show support for a republic.
http://www.independentaustralia.net/?s=John+Pyke
John Pyke is a lecturer in constitutional law and has a website for anyone who cares to know how our political system works
http://ozconstinfo.freehomepage.com/jp_biog.html
UN4 1 PYKE, John Richard - Lecturer
PO Box 15869
CITY EAST QLD 4002
Email: johnpyke.oz@gmail.com
UN4 2 TOOLEY, Christopher Ronald - Retiree

Group G Independent: LINDSAY-PARK E-Jay and GUERIN Lachlan

Donkey preferenced(?) every ungrouped independent EXCEPT Peter Pyke, then the other grouped independents, and hates Sex Party, Secular Party and Climate Sceptics
https://www.belowtheline.org.au/qld/group_g.html
Is "speaking up for rural Australia", has conservative values
http://www.ejaylindsaypark.info/values.html
Quick overview
http://www.mysunshinecoast.com.au/business/display/e-jay-lindsay-park-independent-senate-candidate,38271,2837
UN1 1 LINDSAY-PARK, E-Jay - Teacher
PO Box 683
KINGAROY QLD 4610
Mobile: 0417 715 500
Email: ejay@ejaylindsaypark.info
UN1 2 GUERIN, Lachlan - Student
This is her son. http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/payout-for-bullied-boy/story-e6freoof-1225713274475

Group I Independent: WATTIE Russel (aka "Camel")and DOWELL John

Boggling preferences, which he's been asked about on the bkop forum, and I'm hoping he'll answer. Has Labor last, then Liberal, then ungrouped independents, all with candidates in reverse ballot order.
https://www.belowtheline.org.au/qld/group_i.html
http://bothkindsofpolitics.org/?s=wattie
intention to campaign for a standard set of road laws across Australia, the rights of small business, Motorcyclists issues, and prison reform
http://www.chopssplace.com.au/index.php?mact=CGBlog,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=84&cntnt01returnid=64mact=CGBlog,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=84&cntnt01returnid=64
http://www.hdforums.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=71&view=topic&postid=236788&forumid=28&tpage=1
Interesting that you can run for senate with a criminal record unless you've committed treason.
UN2 1 WATTIE, Russell - Self Employed
1102 Bauple Dr
TIARO QLD 4650
Mobile: 0418 573 006
Email: camelumcqld@gmail.com
UN2 2 DOWELL, John - Pastor
11 Bedivere St
CARINDALE QLD 4152
Phone (home): 0415 135 725
Phone (work): 07 3843 5330
Mobile: 0415 135 725
Email: johndowell6@hotmail.com
Pastor Dowell runs a charity for the homeless. Oddly his candidacy didn't make their news page. http://mamarenes.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=3&cntnt01returnid=54

And last, and in our particular voting system least, the ungrouped independents. They do not have group voting tickets, do not appear above the line, and their followers MUST number all sixty boxes. Traditionally, other parties donkey vote or reverse-donkey them in as pollie-filler between their likes and dislikes,for example:
Liberal
38 Independent (Ungrouped) WHITE Mark
39 Independent (Ungrouped) BAMBRICK Don
40 Independent (Ungrouped) SMITH Mark Leslie Chapman
41 Independent (Ungrouped) WIRTH Jarrod John
42 Independent (Ungrouped) PYKE Peter
43 Independent (Ungrouped) CARROLL Maurie

But Family First likes Peter Pyke better than any other independent, putting him thirtieth, then lumping grouped, then other ungrouped beneath him.

The Secular Party puts them last with some attention.
55 Independent (Ungrouped) PYKE Peter
56 Independent (Ungrouped) SMITH Mark Leslie Chapman
57 Independent (Ungrouped) WHITE Mark
58 Independent (Ungrouped) CARROLL Maurie
59 Independent (Ungrouped) WIRTH Jarrod John
60 Independent (Ungrouped) BAMBRICK Don

Labor
33 Independent (Ungrouped) BAMBRICK Don
34 Independent (Ungrouped) CARROLL Maurie
35 Independent (Ungrouped) PYKE Peter
36 Independent (Ungrouped) SMITH Mark Leslie Chapman
37 Independent (Ungrouped) WHITE Mark
38 Independent (Ungrouped) WIRTH Jarrod John

Fishing and Lifestyle
19 Independent (Ungrouped) WHITE Mark
20 Independent (Ungrouped) BAMBRICK Don
21 Independent (Ungrouped) CARROLL Maurie
22 Independent (Ungrouped) PYKE Peter
23 Independent (Ungrouped) WIRTH Jarrod John
24 Independent (Ungrouped) SMITH Mark Leslie Chapman

Greens
22 Independent (Ungrouped) SMITH Mark Leslie Chapman
23 Independent (Ungrouped) CARROLL Maurie
24 Independent (Ungrouped) BAMBRICK Don
25 Independent (Ungrouped) WIRTH Jarrod John
26 Independent (Ungrouped) WHITE Mark
And Peter Pyke at 42

Don't you at least wonder who the hell Peter Pyke is, now?
He's a former-ALP State MP who resigned from Queensland Labor in 1996, joined the Queensland Greens in 2003, became disillusioned, and is now CEO of the new Republican Democrats centre party which just missed out on registration prior to the election
http://republicandemocrats.org.au/
PYKE, Peter - Contractor
PO Box 84
SOUTHTOWN QLD 4350
Phone (home): 13 0029 1129
Phone (work): 13 0029 1129
Mobile: 0427 388 598
Email: pykie@republicandemocrats.org.au

What about Mark Smith, then? The independent who is a constitutional law lecturer liked him even more than Peter Pyke, remember? And from Greens and F&L reaction you'd guess he's pro-environmental issues.
http://www.mysunshinecoast.com.au/business/display/mark-smith-independent-federal-senate-candidate,38303,2837
Well, he's anti-desalination but pro-nuclear. Actually he's running on an anti-pokies platform, like John Pyke & Chris Tooley. (Oh, that's why he likes him.) He's added his answers to bkop questions to his one page website. He thinks the D.L.P plan for asylum seekers is a good idea, which I personally don't, but what I think is a brilliant idea for an ungrouped independent is directing the preferences of his followers by putting his own sixty numbered ballot sheet on a pdf on his website.
http://marksmithforsenator.com/blog.htm
SMITH, Mark Leslie Chapman Independent Broadcaster
PO Box 277
ASHMORE QLD 4214
Phone (work): 0410 687 600
Mobile: 0410 687 600
Email: musicradio@matilda.net.au

So, Mark White, Senate Independent. Don't confuse him with Mark White the Family First House of Reps candidate for Brisbane. And remember, its not that Liberal likes him, they just donkey voted the ungrouped independents. Do Shooters and Fishers seem to like him and Greens dislike him for any particular reason? He runs a business in Yeppoon and his local issues are water, infrastructure, fishing, estuary management, and sustainable tourism. He sounds like a reasonable person; maybe I'll ask him why he's preferenced the way he is. Not that he'll necessarily know. (Edit: Mark White returned my email promptly. He doesn't know. He is not aligned or affiliated with any party and has not been contacted by any of them.)
He's also answered the bkop questions on his site
http://markwhite.org.au/?page_id=21
WHITE, Mark Independent -Business Owner
PO Box 808
YEPPOON QLD 4703
Mobile: 0439 098 310
Email: markwhite@ultrafast.com.au

I've fluked the first three in Secular Party preference order, so I'll continue that way.
Google tells me he's a previous independent candidate for Qld state elections: Moncrieff in 2001, Broadwater in 2006. No idea beyond that. No email listed with the AEC. Might not be computer literate and just prefers electioneering to lawn bowls in his retirement.
CARROLL, Maurie Independent - Pensioner
9/22 Madang Cres
RUNAWAY BAY QLD 4216
Phone (work): 07 5529 0840

WIRTH, Jarrod John lists no contacts at all with AEC, only that his job title is Director.
There is a Jarrod Wirth on facebook with a link to a website about a motion picture project, and a like of a wildlife rescue organisation. His profile picture shows a red bearded man in a wizard's hat. Rincewind? Using my googlestalker powers, I can tell you where he works and what his mobile is, because there is a picture of probably the same red bearded man. http://www.rtss.com.au/contacts.htm
But I couldn't be bothered ringing him up and asking him what his policies are. He deserves to be pollie-filler if he can use facebook but can't even give us a hint there. BTW, Liberal has friggin' GOOGLEJACKED the names of all the independents. Search and see.

Don Bambrick is running a sustainability campaign and is preferencing Greens, who are not returning the favour. Why would they be lukewarm about him, and Secular Party put him last of all? I am seriously wondering if any of the above parties researched the ungrouped independents or just randomised them. He has a facebook page where he's invited you after answering the bkop questions. AEC lists him as unemployed, but he lists 20 years in Queensland forestry with the last 6 as research overseer.
http://bothkindsofpolitics.org/?p=1798
http://www.mysunshinecoast.com.au/business/display/don-bambrick-independent-federal-senate-candidate,38302,2837
BAMBRICK, Don Independent - Unemployed
104 Childs Rd
BYFIELD QLD 4703
Phone (work): 0457 139 449
Email: donforsenate@yahoo.com.au
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Don-Bambrick-sustainability-campaign/103944266327087#!/pages/Don-Bambrick-sustainability-campaign/103944266327087?v=info

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[info]berru

August 8 2010, 06:38:19 UTC 1 year ago

Thanks for posting this!

[info]cloudshroom

August 8 2010, 08:24:56 UTC 1 year ago

Thank you!!!!!!

By the way, has anybody received their electoral poll letter yet? I'm referring to the one we take to the polling booth and they cross off our name on the list.

[info]atypia

August 8 2010, 09:26:26 UTC 1 year ago

Not me!

[info]asmallplanet

August 8 2010, 10:12:29 UTC 1 year ago

Poll letter? Never heard of such a thing in previous elections. Are there letters required in special circumstances?

I did get a mailout from the Electoral Commission but don't have to take it to voting day.

[info]sadimgnik

August 9 2010, 01:54:17 UTC 1 year ago

I believe the 'elector letter' is a state-election thing, not a Federal one ... see http://www.ecq.qld.gov.au/voting.aspx?id=92

[info]cloudshroom

August 9 2010, 07:43:04 UTC 1 year ago

Yes that's the one. Sorry I'm 23 so I've only voted like twice in my life T_T I did get that note twice though as the area we live in merged with another shire to become Bonner (rather than the name we were representative of before).

[info]atypia

August 8 2010, 09:26:09 UTC 1 year ago

You're awesome! :D

[info]friezaess

August 8 2010, 09:55:19 UTC 1 year ago

Ugh, how many Christian parties do we really need? X_x

[info]asmallplanet

August 8 2010, 10:13:02 UTC 1 year ago

None? ;)

[info]asmallplanet

August 8 2010, 11:51:41 UTC 1 year ago

To clarify; we don't need religious parties of any kind.

[info]moern

August 8 2010, 12:54:32 UTC 1 year ago

I love you, you know. FB sharing <3

[info]brockulfsen

August 9 2010, 01:56:17 UTC 1 year ago

Thankyou.

I'm going with the Sex Party, even though they preferenced Labor ahead of the Coalition (lodged before Abbott came out against the "filter").

I love the ungrouped fringes.

[info]johnpyke

August 11 2010, 01:41:06 UTC 1 year ago

Thanks for listing us, Ms Possum

But I'm a constitutional law lecturer, not quite the same as a politics lecturer but close. And we now have our Limit the Pokies Group (Group F) policy website up at ozconstinfo.freehomepage.com/pokies/ - perhaps you could add it into your original post (if livejournal allows that) so people don't have to stumble on it down here in the comments?

And re the poll letter - some of the State Electoral Commissions do this, but the AEC doesn't. Despite all the hysteria promoted by freaky Liberal-front groups, the incidence of people voting in other folks' names is tiny. The bigger problem is poll clerks crossing off the wrong Smith, Jones or Tran. So just go to the polling booth and tell 'em your name and address, and if you're not obviously the wrong sex they'll believe you - but then watch, reading upside-down, and make sure they cross off the right name and not the one above or below.

[info]greenglowgrrl

August 11 2010, 03:47:40 UTC 1 year ago

Re: Thanks for listing us, Ms Possum

Nothing easier, Mr Pyke. Errors and omissions corrected. I've even spelt "constitutional" right this time.

Now that I have your ear, perhaps you could answer some burning questions of mine? :)

Is the whole purpose of an independent having a running mate just to qualify for above the line status in our system? Is that why people rope in their wives/sons/pastors/sock puppets?

Anthony Green mentioned "It makes no difference what order within a group you put the candidates, as long as you don't split the ticket between the groups." http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2010/08/senate-calculators.html#comments. Does that mean it will make a difference if I, say, put you first, but, fearing Chris Tooley may actually BE a sock puppet because he has no online presence; put him last?

The bkop questions may simply be the issues made popular in the media, but they've been my best source of getting a wider appreciation of the independent candidates. Is there any particular reason why you haven't answered them yourself?

[info]johnpyke

August 11 2010, 04:08:13 UTC 1 year ago

Re: Thanks for listing us, Ms Possum

Yes, I type constitutional wrong almost every time and then have to go back and get the 't's and 'i's and the one 'u' in the right order.

Yes the purpose of having a running mate is to get a column and to be able to register a GVT which makes it much easier for people to vote for me in exchange for giving me the power (Bwah,hah,hah) to direct their preferences. Mine is not a sock puppet but he does have chronic fatigue, so he'd be alarmed if we got 2 quotas - but that's hardly likely.

It would indeed make no difference if you put Chris last (unless you really think we'll go close to 2 quotas), but when he's awake he has a great mind and a crazy sense-uma and he's much more worthy than many of the other candidates.

I've answered questions similar to the ones from BKOP, sent by other people, but I don't believe they've asked me directly. But you've read my preference ticket - you should be able to infer my value-system from that.

Vote 1 for me! "Group F" the Pokies!

JP


[info]watchtheweather

August 17 2010, 15:36:08 UTC 1 year ago

Thank you very much.

Re-posting to a forum.

[info]greenglowgrrl

August 17 2010, 23:45:08 UTC 1 year ago

Even though I wrote this; I still cant keep them straight in my head without a mnemonic:
WHITE Mark - The Other WHITE Mark - Not Green, not Redneck. (Extract from the email reply when I asked him about Greens vs Shooters Fishers: I would say that since I live in a coastal district which adjoins both pastoral and mining industries, I have got to know, and speak with a wide variety of people, whose interests and issues have a lot of common ground. It's unfortunate that too often there seems to be too much emotion on both sides, going to extremes, instead of using common sense and working to a realistic outcome for all Australians and the environment.)
BAMBRICK Don - BAMing his head against a BRICK wall when trying to interest major parties in alternative sustainable energy systems.
SMITH Mark Leslie Chapman - SMITH would hammer flat poker machines.
WIRTH Jarrod John - "WIRTHLESS" as Rincewind in Pratchett's "Moving Pictures". As Unseen as the University.
PYKE Peter - Peter PIKED from the ALP and then the Greens to go to Republican Democrats.
CARROLL Maurie - CARROLLS by Candlelight? Certainly not screenlight. May be a luddite.

Thats in my rather more personal blog of my voting process, where I test drive the online voting below the line tools. Its waffley and I don't try to keep unbiased so can't post it to a forum. http://greenglowgrrl.livejournal.com/328102.html
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